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Re: identifying cichlids and determining tank size
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 8:19 am
by armorbay
willie32 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:18 pm
Hi, I'm also working on an Mbuna tank right now. I agree with your ID, but I'll give you the updated scientific names since Malawi cichlids can be tricky to research due to the constant name changes. The striped ones are likely Chindongo Demasoni - not necessarily from Pombo Rocks, as they're commonly tank-bred. The pale blue ones could be Chindongo Socolofi or Metriaclima Callainos, while the orange ones are probably Red Zebras, Metriaclima Estherae. Alternatively, the orange ones might be female Metriaclima Msobo Magunga, with the male being the black and blue fish above them.
For a tank your size, consider having four 'slots', each with one male and 4-7 females. However, I'm not a fan of the species mix in the picture. Demasoni can be quite aggressive, and having two Chindongo or two Metriaclima species doesn't sit well with me. You could achieve a similar look with just two species - Chindongo Saulosi, which has black and blue striped males and yellow/orange females, and Metriaclima Callainos. I'd suggest three male Saulosi and one male Callainos, with four females for each male Saulosi and five for the Estherae.
I initially planned a mixed species tank in my 75 but decided on a single species tank with Metriaclima Msobo Magunga. I love the unique males and bright orange females. My plan is three males and 12 females, but I might add a small group of Socolofi - one male and four females. If you choose to keep multiple males of the same species, always have at least three.
Hey, I just found this really cool website about Malawi cichlids - you gotta check it out. They have this interactive map that's super awesome, you can click on different areas and then there's a link in the photo that opens up to a section with great pics of the cichlids from that specific area. I'm totally loving it, it's like a treasure trove of info and photos. The link is
http://malawi.si/index.html, you should def give it a look.
Re: identifying cichlids and determining tank size
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 9:04 am
by willie32
I've come across that site before, and I'm a big fan of the interactive map - it's really well done. I spend hours clicking around, checking out the different areas and the corresponding photos of the cichlids that inhabit them.
I've had a similar experience, though - I'll see a beautiful, obscure fish on the site, only to find out it's either not available in the hobby or notorious for being super aggressive, like Kenyi or Cobalt Blues.
I've found this YouTube channel to be really helpful, though -
https://www.youtube.com/@hagebycikliden569. He's got a great video on cichlids from sandy habitats, and there's a clip of Acei Ngaras in a huge group that's just amazing.
Re: identifying cichlids and determining tank size
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 9:38 am
by willie32
I've had a change of heart - thanks to you, I've gone from wanting a single species tank of Msobo Magunga to considering 3 groups of them plus a group of Socolofi. But then I stumbled upon that awesome white fin Acei video and now I'm hooked on them. The problem is, three species won't cut it anymore, and I need a fourth to complete the mix. I was thinking of adding either Maingaino or White Labs, but you've convinced me that White Labs would look stunning with Acei Ngara. Now I'm torn between the original plan and this new, exciting combination.
Re: identifying cichlids and determining tank size
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 11:19 am
by armorbay
willie32 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:18 pm
Hi, I'm also working on an Mbuna tank right now. I agree with your ID, but I'll give you the updated scientific names since Malawi cichlids can be tricky to research due to the constant name changes. The striped ones are likely Chindongo Demasoni - not necessarily from Pombo Rocks, as they're commonly tank-bred. The pale blue ones could be Chindongo Socolofi or Metriaclima Callainos, while the orange ones are probably Red Zebras, Metriaclima Estherae. Alternatively, the orange ones might be female Metriaclima Msobo Magunga, with the male being the black and blue fish above them.
For a tank your size, consider having four 'slots', each with one male and 4-7 females. However, I'm not a fan of the species mix in the picture. Demasoni can be quite aggressive, and having two Chindongo or two Metriaclima species doesn't sit well with me. You could achieve a similar look with just two species - Chindongo Saulosi, which has black and blue striped males and yellow/orange females, and Metriaclima Callainos. I'd suggest three male Saulosi and one male Callainos, with four females for each male Saulosi and five for the Estherae.
I initially planned a mixed species tank in my 75 but decided on a single species tank with Metriaclima Msobo Magunga. I love the unique males and bright orange females. My plan is three males and 12 females, but I might add a small group of Socolofi - one male and four females. If you choose to keep multiple males of the same species, always have at least three.
Haha same here, I'm in the same boat as you. Just found out the YouTube channel you shared is from Sweden, not too far from me in Copenhagen (450km/280miles). And get this, he's got a massive list of cichlids in stock:
https://hagebycikliden.se/wp-content/up ... _15_06.pdf
Re: identifying cichlids and determining tank size
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:10 pm
by willie32
I'm so envious, haha. That's a great find, and the fact that the breeder is relatively close to you is a bonus. I hadn't realized that the YouTube channel was based in Sweden, but now I'm glad I shared it with you. I think it would be worth the trip to visit the breeder, considering the variety of cichlids they have in stock.